Felony Charges for Past Due Child Support

UPDATED AGAIN 7/30, 7/31

H/T Janet Langjahr

Most women I know, including myself, receive child support. Additionally, most women that I know, do not receive the court-ordered amount of child support. So what happens? We get by by whatever means necessary. As for these fathers, at least as far as Florida Child Support Enforcement (CSE) is concerned: At 30 days, CSE can suspend the father's driver's license...emphasis on "can."

What does that really do?

Well, it won't stop him from driving if he wants to or needs to drive. It will get him to paying some fees if he wants his license restored, but the child support "problem" has to be taken care of first. (This is all based on the fact that he has a license, because he might not).

How does he take care of the problem if there is past due child support? Isn't it past due because he couldn't pay it?

I'm glad you asked. In Florida, he can go on down to the CSE office and make a payment arrangement.

What did you say?

A payment arrangement, you know, like when your electricity bill is late and steady accumulating but you need to keep the power on so you make an agreement to pay a little something-something in installments?...Something like that. The father agrees to pay the debt by making an arrangement. Yes, I know this is odd because he already has an arrangement to pay child support on a monthly basis.

And so the full child support amount isn't getting paid on a regular basis, what does CSE do?

I'm glad you asked. The answer is, nothing. Yes, that is indeed what the CSE representative told me...they don't do a damn thing. As long as he's paying something, there's nothing further they are going to do....except...garnish his federal tax return come the following year. Oh yeah! You will get a lump sum payment of the debt (maybe not all of it, but most of it...granted you didn't receive any cash assistance, because then the State will get paid first) next year. Oh yeah, that's if he doesn't owe any other debts, like student loans...and of course his other babymamas. If so, you'll have to split the profits debt, or maybe you'll just have to wait your turn. This is all assuming he files a tax return though.

I have heard of few men who have gone to jail for child support debt/arrears/arrearage. The men that I have known to do so were found on the street, or something similar, doing something else (illegal, or not non illegal), and the popo ran their name on their license and found other stuff, and hence they were arrested and brought in under child support charges either in addition to, or in place of, whatever the popo originally stopped them for.

So how do these fathers resolve the situation after getting arrested?

I'm glad you asked. The fathers can pay a purge to the court. I'm not quite sure what that means because I have no direct experience with that--but from what I've heard, the father presents in front of the judge and then pays like $100, and it is all over with. No, the child support debt isn't erased*, it's more like he's making a good faith deposit on it.

One more thing, child support debt can go on the credit report...all three bureaus. Unfortunately, from what I have observed, many credit granting institutions really don't give a shit.

Back in my youth, I used to think it was all cool that fathers were sent to jail for failing to pay their child support. There were just so many fathers doing it. I mean, it was seriously like the thing to do...NOT pay your child support BUT continue fucking around and making more babies with different women. I thought the only way to stop this madness, short of a male birth control, was to throw their asses in jail. And then one day I woke up and realized,
How the hell are they going to pay their child support in jail?
But you see, I'm referring to poor men. Or maybe not poor men per se, men who do not have a job, or are un[der]employed, maybe that's a better description. You must remember that non poor men, men with jobs, men with good ass jobs, don't pay their child support, too, sometimes. And it is on purpose. Some men work under the table, to avoid paying...some men change jobs frequently, to avoid it...some men move out of the state, to avoid...and some men just refuse to work...This is who I imagine that jail is supposed to be for. It is supposed to serve as their wake-up call.

Now the menz groups like to turn all this on its head and say that mothers are the largest group of folk not paying their child support. What kinda mothers are these? Were these mothers formerly employed and are now just acting like the menz? Or were these mothers stay at homes who, because of circumstances (ie court battle and loss of custody) are now just getting [back] into the workforce in low-paying jobs? There is a difference.

The menz always say to women,
Why do yall bitches get pregnant from these no good ass mofos with no jobs and expect them to be supportin your chilluns?
I ask the menz,
Why do yall mofos be getting bitches pregnant who want to stay at home with their children and not work outside the home?
In the meantime:

Marshall woman accused of failing to pay child support

Friday, July 9, 2010
PAT NOLAN, Staff Writer

A criminal summons has been issued for a Marshall woman for failing to pay child support.

Billie J. Weathers, 39, is charged with two counts of nonsupport, a class D felony.

According to the probable cause statement, Weathers was ordered to pay $325 per month in child support for two minor children. As of June 30, the total due exceeded the total of 12 monthly payments.

If convicted, Weathers faces up to four years in the Department of Corrections, or one year in the county jail and/or up to a $5,000 fine per count.

Charges contained in reports provided by law enforcement officials are not evidence of guilt. Evidence supporting charges must be presented before a jury, whose duty is to determine if the accused is guilty or not guilty of the charges.


And so we have a woman who must have a pretty low income to be ordered to pay that amount for two children. And apparently more than $4200 has accrued in arrears. And so, in the State of Missouri, this woman will possibly have an arrest record and felony charges attached to her name. If she can't come up with the money, she could spend time in prison (coincidentally, where she will not be earning any money); if she does come up with the money, she could spend less time in prison and then pay up to $10K on top of the arrears.

Who gets the fine money?

What kind of post-prison employment do felons get?
(surely this won't get the kids any higher-level type of support not to mention probably not getting to visit mom in prison.)

And WHO initiated this court action? (I highly doubt it is a welfare case and that CSE is involved).

All the women I know have had at least this amount of arrears owed to them. We all just wait on the tax return...each year...and sometimes for years. We wouldn't even want the "father" in prison because there definitely would be no tax return to collect.

*Speaking of erasing debt. I have seen the family court system erase child support debt for various reasons (none of them good, likely not even legal). It is a very interesting (to say the least) experience watching all that money that was owed to the children, go down the drain, like it never existed. Money you could've used to buy socks and hairbows and shit, fieldtrips and deodorant and shit, or even piano lessons and braces and shit. I have seen child support arrears negotiated for other things ie you agree to waive the arrears, and the father agrees to "give you" full custody (since custody is now "shared" in Florida since 2008, read: Gender Bias in Florida's Court System, Shared Parental Responsibility), and other shit like that.

Additionally, in Florida, interest can be added to child support arrears...obviously adding more debt to what the father already owes. However, I have seen family court judges not allow interest even though State law says so.

My advice to women concerning child support (if you're on the receiving end) can be found here. Look ladies, the child support system isn't as simple as you think it is. It has morphed into an agency that's goal is to meddle in your home life and possible split your children half, or wholly away from the name of fatherhood. Please take my word for it. Or, not:

The Purpose of Child Support Enforcement

I'm providing this information, which is public, just in case anyone wasn't clear on the intent of child support run by the gub'ment (emphasis mine):

Child Support Enforcement

The Child Support Enforcement Program provides four major services to our customers:

locating non-custodial parents,
establishing paternity,
establishing support orders and
collecting support payments.

The program also provides services to non-custodial parents. States offer access and visitation services through federal grants...

Read Also:

DHHS, Responsible Fatherhood, the Family Court: Your Tax Dollars Being Wasted On an Illegal Hype

Legislation to Help Deadbeat Dads Get Back in Control of Their Families


How Phyllis Schlafly REALLY Feels: "the blacks" and "unmarried women" should beware

Thanks to RH Reality Check for bringing this to my attention. Phyllis Schlafly said,

"One of the things Obama's been doing is deliberately trying to increase the percentage of our population that is dependent on government...For example, do you know what was the second biggest demographic group that voted for Obama? Obviously the blacks were the biggest demographic, yall know what was the second biggest? Unmarried women. 70% of unmarried women voted for Obama. And this is because when you kick your husband out, you've got to have Big Brother Government to be your provider. And they know that. They've admitted it. And they have all kinds of bills to continue to subsidize illegitimacy, which is now nationwide, running at 41%. 1.7 million babies were born in our country illegitimately last year. The Obama administration wants to continue to subsidize this group because they know they are Democratic votes. Republicans never could have given the amount of money they are going to get. And as Ronald Reagan said, if you subsidize something you are going to get more of it, and if you tax it you're going to get less of it.

*sighing* Here I go:

1. Raise your hand if you are poor and you WANT to be dependent on the government?

2. Who the fuck are "the blacks?"

3. Raise your hand if you are Black and you did NOT vote for Obama (Schlafly isn't talking about you though).

4. Raise your hand if you are Black and NOW you wish you did not vote for Obama (I'm just curious).

5. Who the fuck are unmarried women? Does your teenaged daughter count? If you're married but separated, do you count? If you're married but you or your husband are fucking around, do you count? If you're engaged, you might not count. If you're recently divorce you might count. Why the hell is everyone up in your relationship business?

6a. How many of you unmarried women kicked your husband out?

b. And how many of you did that just for shitz and giggles?

c. And how many of you did that you so could sign up for Obama and his friends to support you and your children?

If you're single and with or without children, you should now know, if you didn't know before, that people like Phyllis Schlafly (Ann Coulter would fit in this category) don't give a flying fuck about you and yours all the while they feign concern about the children whilst taking away funding from programs that give kids a chance to do things with their lives besides fucking and engaging in violence (immediate, free gratification).

Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger of Germany Posed to Give Men More Power Over Childbearing Women

We know joint custody/shared parenting/50-50 timesharing is a major hot button issue right now. Interestingly, there really is no unified definition of these child custody arrangements. Even more interestingly is that there is no research the proves that splitting of the children is in children's best interest.

In Germany, Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger is preparing to give unmarried fathers "equal rights" "over" their children because:
“Children should have the right that their fathers taken on responsibility and make joint-decisions over important things in their lives"
"Living together should not be a prerequisite for joint custody"

Please tell me how the court system can make a parent to make decisions. Who gets to decide what the important things are? Why is this being framed as "children have the right...." at what point do the children come in and testify in support of this?

What about that one night stand that produces pregnancy? What about that man and woman who enjoy fucking each other, but couldn't stand to make any decisions together, let alone plan to live in harmony? What does this mean for these children?

Automatic joint custody for all. The government gets to decide on behalf of your children. Wow. German mothers beware!

Massachusetts Can't Look at DCF Files in Child Custody Cases

In the family court arena, the Department of Children and Families (DCF) has been helpful to some and an obstruction/destruction to others. Where mothers have reported suspected or actual abuse by the father, sometimes DCF comes in an substantiates the abuse and therefore provides evidence to the court that the mother may not have had or been able to obtain on her own. Sometimes it isn't the mother who reports the abuse, but the school system or other mandated reported, or possibly an anonymous reporter.

If the mother does NOT report it, sometimes it is best because DCF has been infiltrated and trained by folks (like Dr. Amy J. Baker) who harbor ideas and theories that promote mothers being blamed for their own actions, or lack of actions, or actions of her children (Read Failing to Report and Reporting to Fail and The System Sends Mixed Messages to Victims). Cases in which DCF has marked as unsubstantiated have been purposefully confused by fathers and their attorneys as evidence of lack of abuse or even fraud on the part of the mother. This is where the theory of parental alienation makes its entry.

In the State of Florida, DCF has continuously proven not only its ineptitude, but its sheer dangerousness in failing to protect victims of family violence. Family violence and homicide is an an all time high in this state with DCF cases taking the credit in many of the top murder-suicides.

So is DCF a friend, or a foe? And is what is happening in Massachusetts helpful, or harmful?

A brief background on Massachusetts--fathers label it as the most unfriendly father-in-family-court state. Fathers groups have been lobbying hard to get things changed--talking to the governor and congresspersons and making deals. And so a Mass court has decided that as far as child custody and visitation is concerned, judges are no longer allowed to secure information from DCF because the information is incomplete, and also because the parent(s) do not know what information is being passed. You decide who this benefits or harms:

Court ruling regarding child-custody cases in Massachusetts hailed as victory for parents

Buffy Spencer, The Republican

SPRINGFIELD – A recent decision by the state’s highest court in a case which challenged practices used in child-custody cases in Hampden Probate Court is a victory for parents, says an administrator of a regional legal services agency.

The state Supreme Judicial Court ruled that certain practices (“protocols”) relied upon by family court judges in Hampden Probate Court in child-related cases, such as those involving temporary visitation and custody, violated the due process rights of parents in those cases, according to Colleen Sullivan, managing attorney for Western Massachusetts Legal Services.

In 2006, Western Massachusetts Legal Services brought a lawsuit challenging the protocols which permitted judges to gather information in cases where there was state Department of Children and Families involvement. The practices included having court personnel simply call the state agency and get an oral summary of information in a file, without the parents’ knowledge of what information was being transmitted, Sullivan said.

The practice allowed for the possibility of incomplete, inaccurate or unreliable information being given to the judge, who would then rely in part on such information to make decisions on issues such as temporary visitation, guardianship or custody, she said.

Sullivan said Western Massachusetts Legal Services has always recognized that Probate Court judges grapple with very difficult issues and are guided by the best interests of the child.

But Western Massachusetts Legal Services also recognized that the protocols left room for serious errors in important decisions about family life, she said.

The Supreme Court acknowledged the difficulties that judges face in making such determinations, but found that the constitutional due process protections of parents here to have only complete, reliable and accurate information be considered by judges is paramount, Sullivan said.

The court ruled that “in the interests of justice, we exercise our broad discretion” to review the current protocols, and concluded that their use violates the due process rights of affected litigants.

The protocols can no longer be used, but the Probate Court can draft new ones that the Supreme Judicial Court’s Rules Committee will review.

Also Read: Family Court System PURPOSEFULLY Masks the Abused and the Abusers


Ex-Boyfriend Rams Truck into Ex-Girlfriend and Kills Her on I-4

On another deadly day in Florida where history of domestic violence is after the fact:

Domestic dispute turns deadly on I-4
FHP: Driver of a Ford pickup rams another car

Updated: Tuesday, 20 Jul 2010, 11:47 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 20 Jul 2010, 3:59 PM EDT

* Kelly Joyce

By Kelly Joyce
FOX 35 News

LAKE HELEN, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Officials with the Florida Highway Patrol are investigating a fatal accident which they now believe was caused intentionally. The victim, Jackie Miller, 44, of Sanford, was ejected and killed after her SUV was struck by the driver of a pick up truck. Troopers have identified the driver of that pick up truck as Christopher Jodon, 44, of Sanford.

Investigators have determined that Miller and Jodon were formerly girlfriend and boyfriend and had broken up a few months ago.

Investigators said the accident happened Tuesday morning around 6:00 a.m. on eastbound lanes of the interstate near Lake Helen. FHP troopers said Jodon rammed his pick up truck into her SUV, causing it to flip. Sources close to the investigation tell FOX 35 that Miller was thrown from her car and then stabbed by Jodon. Troopers said Jodon then hurt himself, and as of Tuesday night, was in the hospital under tight police protection.

Crime scene technicians took pictures and removed three computers from Jodon's Sanford home, where neighbors said Miller and Jodon once lived together. Neighbors said miller moved out recently, but would visit.

Seminole County jail records show they had a violent relationship. Deputies said, just last month, Jodon was arrested and charged with domestic violence, battery, and false imprisonment stemming from an altercation with Miller.

In the police report filed in June of this year, Miller told deputies, "This has happened numerous times in the past, and I want to believe he will change. This only happens when he drinks excessively. Even now I do not want to prosecute Jodon, I just don't want him to hurt me anymore."

Charges are pending and the incident remains under investigation. The Volusia County Sheriff's Office has simultaneously launched a homicide investigation.

According to the video clip from the news, she wasn't killed by the crash. The bastard got out and stabbed her while she lay on the ground.

Maybe those GPS monitors wouldn't be so bad.


Fatherlessness Overrated

Check out this post and consider why will really need a multimillion dollar initiative for fatherhood.

“Papa Don’t Preach!”

By Stacey Patton

“We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception. We need them to realize that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child – it’s the courage to raise one.”

–President Barack Obama

I grew up without my father. I know his name: Steve. And I’ve seen three photographs of him standing proudly next to three of his grown sons that he had with two other women. When I was born he was married to another woman living across town with their twin boys. My older sister was four. When his wife discovered he had been cheating on her with my mother (who didn’t know he was married with kids), she divorced him. Steve packed up, became a rolling stone, went south, married again, and had another son. His current wife knew about his twin boys but nothing of the two daughters he left behind in the early eighties.

I was 27 the first time I had a phone conversation with Steve. Today, he lives somewhere in Franklin County, Virginia, has a slow countrified drawl, and only remembers that I liked red grapes as a toddler. Getting Steve to talk about himself, his feelings or about the past was like pulling teeth. When I finally asked where he’d been for nearly three decades, he was full of excuses, blaming my mother and other women in the family for why he couldn’t man up and take care of his responsibilities...

click on the title of the article to read the entire post.

American Mothers Political Party Blogtalk Radio Show 7/22/10

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Mothers across the world are uniting to expose the criminals of family court. We demand justice and equality within the system. We will discuss the impact that Responsible Fatherhood Initiatives have done to Motherhood. We will share what we have uncovered and who has been paid off. Please join us and share your story of family court nightmares!

Hosted by: Lorraine Tipton, Blogger, Activist/Advocate for Mothers Rights and co-founder of AMPP. Expert in domestic violence, family court corruption and custody disputes.

Special Guest: Alexis Moore, Founder of Survivors In Action national crime victims’ organization. Expert in cyberstalking, privacy protection, stalking, identity theft and domestic violence advocating so "No Victim is Left Behind"

AMPP is a social movement seeking justice and accountability within the family court system which includes DHHS/CPS, psychologists and other so called experts.
We as mothers demand CITIZENSHIP and our Rights to our Children. We demand that our children not be used as pawns by our abuser in a custody dispute. We demand that Mothers and Children be equally protected against court ordered visitation with an abuser. We demand that Mothers and Children be given the same rights, privileges and voice that the abuser gets in family courts!
We demand that our President take action now as can no longer afford to be silent and we won’t. We demand the same "rights and freedoms" to which all humans are entitled.
Behind the closed doors of the dirty little secret of the family court system, thousands of women each year lose child custody to violent men who beat and abuse Mothers and Children. Family courts are not family-friendly and betray the best interests of the child. Until Mothers and Childrens voices are heard we will never shut up, give up or go away!


Equal Rights Means Equal Time, bitches

Someone in Colorado felt the need to leave this message:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "50-50 Parenting":

You nims need a reality check.
What kind of man-hating garbage is this?
I came to your site looking for insight on '50-50 parenting' and got this he/perp,she/victim bullshit? REALLY?
You sound like some outdated whiners loking to preserve the gender discrimnation that worked for you before.
WAKE UP.Its 2010
Equal Rights means Equal time,bitches.
get over it,quit trying so hard to DQ dad so you can get the checks and control.THAT party's over!
Good luck!

Posted by Anonymous to Randi James at Jul 5, 2010 12:05:00 PM

Apparently, he didn't like the truth about 50-50 parenting--which is that there really is no 50-50 parenting. I didn't make this up. All research that I have read says that men do not (and don't really want to) take part in any sort of equal childrearing responsibilities.
Don't be angry with me.

If you want to share parenting so equally, do that shit DURING the relationship. Do that shit BEGINNING with newborn care. Short of that, don't come with that old shared parenting bullshit...never mind the fact that sharing parenting doesn't even mean 50-50 time share.

People like anonymous want to hear what they want to hear and don't give a fuck about children and their needs and desires. It's all about their own needs which has a lot to do with not paying child support, coincidentally.

If this is preserving gender discrimination, then I charge men with participating in it. Like Smokey the Bear says,
Only you can prevent forest fires.
Anonymous person, you're the one who obviously needs to luck, not to mention other things.

Thanks for reading.